Did anyone read this article in this month's Portland Monthly Magazine?
www.portlandmonthlymag.com/this_issue/
"If you think swinging went out with the bell-bottoms and keg parties, you’re right. The buzzword for today’s lotsa-lovin’ lifestyle is “polyamory”—Latin for “My wife thinks you’re cute”—and Portlanders are getting in on the action."
If so, how was it? (I can't find a copy of the article online. If you have a link to such, please post it.)
www.portlandmonthlymag.com/this_issue/
"If you think swinging went out with the bell-bottoms and keg parties, you’re right. The buzzword for today’s lotsa-lovin’ lifestyle is “polyamory”—Latin for “My wife thinks you’re cute”—and Portlanders are getting in on the action."
If so, how was it? (I can't find a copy of the article online. If you have a link to such, please post it.)
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 11:49 AMI was pretty dissapointed in that article. It starts OK but then they declare lovetribe to be the central organizer for polys in Portland which (while I really dig those folks and what they do) is off the mark because they are not really a polycentric organization. Also the article is mostly centered on the writers inability to deal with any sort of poly situation as oppossed to putting it out there from a unbiased or (gasp) even positive point of view. I mean he freaked out at the thought of joining in at a snuggle. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 11:53 AMThat's unfortunate.
Although I must admit, I feel the same way about group snuggles. *shudder*
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 2:48 PMJeebus, if you can't handle snuggling you shouldn't be trying to write about poly. Sheesh.
And Rich is right. While an overwhelmingly large percentage of Lovetribers are poly we don't actually organize "poly" events, though we DO through barrier mandatory play-parties that are, IMHO, much more fun and friendly than places like Ace of Hearts (which might be why we're so popular with the poly community!). Of course, you could just as easily say that the local Burner community is a poly hub. There's nothing about being a Burner that requires you to be poly, but a lot of us are. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 3:06 PM"Jeebus, if you can't handle snuggling you shouldn't be trying to write about poly."
I'm not sure that's a fair characterization. It does sound as though this particular person probably wasn't the right person to write this piece, but group snuggling and polyamory are unrelated, despite the Venn diagram overlap among some adherents.
That's like saying, "If you can't handle wife-swapping, you shouldn't be trying to write about poly," or, "If you can't handle BDSM, you shouldn't be trying to write about science fiction." -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 3:56 PMI disagree. Snuggling is a safe and mostly platonic way of exploring affection with multiple people. If snuggling shocks you and makes you uncomfortable then how are you going to handle sharing SEX with multiple people? Sure, it's not everybody's thing. Hell, it doesn't really do much for me as an activity. That's different from having it make you uncomfortable and being unable to participate without getting freaked. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 4:01 PMGroup snuggling makes me *extraordinarily* uncomfortable, and I have no problem being poly, having sex and being in love with multiple people, or sharing my partners with multiple people. You are making an unwarranted conclusion. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 11:46 PMI'm with you, sister. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:43 AMi think everybody's right! -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:47 AM*laughing*
Hippie. ;)
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:59 AMI think each person has their own level of comfort. What works for you may not work for someone else. Just because someone isn't comfortable with snuggling doesn't mean that person can't be comfortable with sex with multiple partners. It depends on the context. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 12:43 PMCheck out last night's Colbert Report. :)
www.comedycentral.com/colbert...os.jhtml
Go to minute marker 3:18. :) -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:47 PM*laughs*
Wag of the finger indeed!
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Thu, May 1, 2008 - 6:42 AMROFL. I'm with my man Colbert on this one!
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 3:41 PM(I know I'm late to the party, sorry...)
Oh, look! Conclusion Jumping! A classic olympic sport! I just might have to go get me some popcorn.
I don't like snuggling with people I've only just that minute met. A lot of folks that I've known for YEARS, I don't want to snuggle with. And I still, somehow, manage to be poly.
Just because I don't want to do something YOUR way doesn't mean I'm not actually capable of doing it. Get over yourself. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:13 PMThat's my Kate. :)
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:39 AMBy the time I caught up with this thread you'd already said it better than I could
Me too. I don't relate to virtual strangers skin-first. I don't use hugs as handshakes most of the time. I'm still poly. Nobody gets to judge where my boundaries belong. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, May 6, 2008 - 1:34 PMOk Ok...I was just being snarky about the snuggling reference.
Here's what I meant...The article under discussion sucked. It really offered no insight into the local poly community and was written by someone who seemed to have a huge fear of non-monogamy. -
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:35 PMWas there any indication where his fear comes from/what form it takes? I mean I know why monogamy gives me the heebie jeebies these days, but I don't have real sense of why someone would be afraid of non-monogamy, unless it's just a vague sense of, "Well, that's just not the way it's supposed to be! God intends unions between two people only!" Or some other such answer that's not really an answer. I'm curious if this guy gave any sort of explanation of why non-monogamy makes him so afraid.
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Re: Tangled up in You and You and You…
Tue, April 22, 2008 - 4:00 PMI just got done reading the article, and while it does share some of the ideology behind polyamory, the author has such an aversion to anything but monogamy there was really no way for him to write the story without it coming out poly-phobic. In a way I'm stoked that the article is out there, but in another I'm disappointed. I understand that the link made between being poly and being a swinger was a way for him to help describe the lifestyle, but I wish he would've made a better effort to hide his bias. It's already hard enough to explain when you are asked or accidentally outed without having the negative press veiling polys as indiscriminate sluts, sex fiends, or creepy weirdos.
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